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I don't think you are LISTENING to your customers.  We liked the old site but we wanted it kept current and updated.  This site isn't worth going to everyday.  Listen to you customers a
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Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.

posted at 1/15/2011 11:20 AM EST
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I'm trying, really I am but it's not the same....Cry

Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.

posted at 1/15/2011 12:42 PM EST
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Sometimes change isn't all that it is cracked up to be.  Change can also be negative as I think is more so in this case.  The old site was complete, easy to nagivate and find things.  Frankly this new one is a step or 10 backwards, but it is what we got.  I guess if we don't like it, we can just go to google and find the things were are wanting to.

It is way to forum driven.  I want recipes and information.  I for one do not like to chat on forums much but sure enjoyed the swapped recipes and some of the interaction others had on the old site.  Not much thought was given to the change, they just wanted to "change".  And of course change came when they were no where close to being ready.

I have hopes that this site will get better with time and input from the users.  It is just hard to take so many steps backwards to go forward.

Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.

posted at 1/15/2011 1:44 PM EST
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I am trying to get some understanding of this site.

Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.

posted at 1/15/2011 2:02 PM EST
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It is definitely worth visiting every day if one is looking for recipes.  The main reason I visit is for the recipes.  I love to bake and Nestle has wonderful recipes.  I'll admit it took me a while to get used to the new site and got a bit frustrated with it when it kept dumping me out before I could get to anything.  Now it seems to be fine except for the computer at work that I'd visit VVB on occasionally.  It still dumps me out on that computer for some reason.

Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.

posted at 1/15/2011 2:56 PM EST
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To those of you ( either end of the issues w/ the new site:
 While I have had plenty of complaints about this new site( I loved the old one;I have found that Neste's is listening & my patience w/ them Innocenthas been rewarded; not 100% but enough for me to continue being here every dayUndecided

I guess we have different"issues' & it does seem to take a miserably long time to solve the problems we tell them about; but web site design is very complicated( my son does it for a living) & I  try to be patient Innocentwhile they attempt  to make it  a great site once againSealed

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I don't think you are LISTENING to your customers.  We liked the old site but we wanted it kept current and updated.  This site isn't worth going to everyday.  Listen to you customers and change is back.
Posted by Donna G

Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.

posted at 1/15/2011 3:31 PM EST
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sad to say the old site was so much more fun, better design and interesting I have lower the number of times I visit because it just takes forever to change information and the format used to e a joy to use in winter time

Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.

posted at 1/15/2011 3:39 PM EST
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Keep hoping one of these days ALL the points will "add up" and be present and accounted for.....Wink

Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.

posted at 1/15/2011 3:41 PM EST
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 VBB ; one& all;
This new site  is far from perfect; but it has come a long way towards fixing what we have complained about.Let's try to give them specifics about what we do not like,now &  continue to enjoy the things about the  site that continue to be special &  good:     (our ability to talk with; comfort, support  & encourage each other; get recipes & information and especialy the opportunity to say what we think about things( this site & other topics) as we decide to bring them  up..
This freedom (of disent( sp)  is one of the BEST best things about AMERICA; No other country tolerates such open  criticism.
CoolNESTLE's is to be to be commended  for their courage in  allowing us to voice our frustration; they do, after all, have the ability to keep negative comments fom apearing, here.
My pet peeve is the loss of private messaging; I "reply" to a comment & it ( my reply) appears pages later.I doubt if the person I" spok"e to is even aware of my replyUndecided.
I miss" favorites"; That made it easier/more efficient to folow threads of interest  to me
, more efficiently
I miss "buddies"; easier to 'talk"  to those  parties  with common interests & personalities.
I enjoy watching my brownie points add up  in a timely fashion.They have no value ( yet) other than the gratification of building up a tresure trove  of points that at some time may have a more tangible valueMoney mouthUndecided?????????????

For now,I ask you all to enjoy what you can frionm this site & allolw those of us w/more patience to do the same.Since visiting daily or not; isoptional, costs us no money, I,for one,am able to tolerate ( temporarily) delays in  the "fixes" needed to achieve "perfection" SealedPerfection may not even be possible;only a dream.Please let Nestle'sworker bees continue to attempt to achieve perfection or as near to satisfying us all as is a possibility.

Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.

posted at 1/15/2011 3:55 PM EST
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         FRAN M  ;i AGREE (IN 2020 HINDSIGHT) Each improvement could have been tackled one at a time, making it less of a shock/chalenge to us oldtimers comfortable w/things as they were, while holding the interest of t hose desiring a change.
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Instead of trying a whole new site, they should have just updated a few things on the old site.
Posted by FRAN M

Nowthat the"mistake' has already been made; let's give" the"m a chance to get back on their feet & fix things in a more calm & rational mannerInnocentCool so poor (though well intended)decisions, don't just make additional problems for us all.Innocent

Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.

posted at 1/15/2011 4:06 PM EST
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Here, here Ann --- I sure agree with"most"of what  you said - lol
I enjoy this site ... that's why I'm here.
I've been on sites I didn't enjoy, couldn't understand, disapproved of so I stated  my opinion, asked questions - waited a bit for an  answer and then  left.   I see  no point in wasting time and effort on a site I don't like or need.
I see no purpose in getting points by writing the same old complaint over and over.

Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.

posted at 1/16/2011 6:07 AM EST
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Since I have been using the new site, I have found that I really enjoy it. I am able to move around it with relative ease. The recipes that VBB offers are still good and some of the recipes that I have gleaned from the members have made my menus much diversified.  Baking for our church group "Martha's Hands" has become an interesting chore.

Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.

posted at 1/16/2011 6:09 AM EST
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I'm trying, really I am but it's not the same....
Posted by Renee C


Hang in there. It takes a little time to adjust. Think of all the great recipes that you can make for your soldier husband and the great cookie recipes that you can send to him. God Bless and Keep you.

Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.

posted at 1/16/2011 6:13 AM EST
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In Response to Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.:
In Response to Re: This is not worth visiting everyday. : Hi Angela, I agree people don't like change,but with change comes progress.At first I thought oh I'm not going to like this at all.Please,give yourself a chance to learn and give those of us who do like it a chance also.There are a fine group of people in this community,this could be greatest site ever.I never wanted a computer,this was a gift from my brother last year.This is all new to me,but I see what information is right at my finger tips and it just blows me away.Please don't leave and just jump right in and start some discussions of your own,I know that each and everyone of us have a lot to share.Thanks.
Posted by gale g


Gale,  Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that you believe that I didn't like the change, but I DO LIKE THE CHANGE. My message was to agree with you and let VBB continue to improve. I love the ability to exchange ideas with everyone as well as the recipes that I have gotten too! I was agreeing with you.

Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.

posted at 1/16/2011 6:37 AM EST
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To be honest, I thought this new site was hard to get around on...not as easy as the old VBB.  The more I use it, the easier it became for me and of course there was a few wrinkles that needed to be ironed out, which was done.  I had met wonderful people on the old VBB like Rotty Girl, Wa-Ha, Tasha buddy, and Granna just to name a few, but let me tell you, I have met wonderful people here on this new VBB like Gale, Nancy and Nikki just to name a few.  Yes, I would like to see private messaging and be able to change the font size to make it easier to read (old age I guess) but you know, meeting new people, becoming friends with these new people, get baking tips, new recipes and sharing recipes...THAT IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT!  So I would like to thank Nestle for making this possible! 

Thank you!

Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.

posted at 1/16/2011 11:06 AM EST
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You see this is what I mean,thanks for your kind words, Susan.She and lots of others on this site make it more than worth while visiting this site.I have been coming here for about a year now,as long as I've had my computer.I never even thought to speak with people on the site,then one day I did and boy am I glad that I did,we share good conversation, great ideas and recipes,please if you are out there and you feel a little uncomfortable joining in on the conversations just jump in,we will welcome you.Nestles has given us this opportunity to be together as a community,but it is up to us to make it strong and grow.I'm confident once all the kinks are worked out this will be a great place to be.Cooking and baking are an ongoing learning process,very few will ever know it all,we can all share and learn from one another.

Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.

posted at 1/16/2011 2:17 PM EST
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I always visit, get a few points and wander on. Wish there were some choices out there for trading points in.  I am a big sweepstakes buff, win a few too, and think we could buy coupons or receipe books, Nestle's or swapped recipe's...  What ya think ???

Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.

posted at 1/16/2011 3:46 PM EST
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I like the new interaction between people everyday.  It seems like I have freinds all over the US.

Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.

posted at 1/16/2011 4:32 PM EST
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In Response to Re: This is not worth visiting everyday. : Gale,  Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that you believe that I didn't like the change, but I DO LIKE THE CHANGE. My message was to agree with you and let VBB continue to improve. I love the ability to exchange ideas with everyone as well as the recipes that I have gotten too! I was agreeing with you.
Posted by Angela F


Hi Angela,I do know that you were agreeing with me and I with you,When I said to give yourself a chance that was not directed at you .It was just a general statement for the others that are not satisfied.I went back and looked at what I wrote and I can see why you got that impression and I'm so sorry.I am very glad to meet you and all the nice folks here on VBB site.Again so sorry for the confusion.

Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.

posted at 1/17/2011 6:44 AM EST
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In Response to Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.:
In Response to Re: This is not worth visiting everyday. : Hi Angela,I do know that you were agreeing with me and I with you,When I said to give yourself a chance that was not directed at you .It was just a general statement for the others that are not satisfied.I went back and looked at what I wrote and I can see why you got that impression and I'm so sorry.I am very glad to meet you and all the nice folks here on VBB site.Again so sorry for the confusion.
Posted by gale g


Gale,
You can see what I mean. Thanks for the kind statement. It is great talking with you.

Re: This is not worth visiting everyday.

posted at 1/17/2011 10:23 AM EST
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I really don't want to sound harsh, but this must stop!  With all this complaining and comments, Nestle can easily stop and close down this site....all will be lost.  Then there will not be any points, swapped recipes, sharing of recipes, tips and ideas...etc.!  Nothing  in this world is perfect except the good Lord.  So, let's try to be positive and let's not ruin it for those who enjoy the new VBB!

I am truly sorry that you feel this way, but it's just not right! 

Thank you!
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