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I will be the first to admit that I depend on my calculator often.  But it seems to me that people in stores do not have a clue how to figure out the correct amount of change if the register does
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Depending on machines for calculations

posted at 3/26/2011 6:37 AM EDT
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I will be the first to admit that I depend on my calculator often.  But it seems to me that people in stores do not have a clue how to figure out the correct amount of change if the register does not tell them what it is.  I was in a store the other day and tried to give the clerk some pennies to round off my change rather than getting more pennies.  He told me that he had already keyed in the amount, so he couldn't do it.  I explained he could do it in his head.  But then he took the money I gave him and subtracted it from what I was due back.  Sad.  I thought that was bad enough.  Then my friend told me about going into a fast food place where the girl put in the wrong amount of cash tendered.  The poor girl had to call her manager over to calculate the correct amount of change to come back.  I don't think they even have a clue what counting the change back to the customer means.  It has been a long time since I have seen anyone do that.  The last time I did it for a person when I rang up a purchase they looked really confused as I counted the money back to them.  A lost art, I guess.

Re: Depending on machines for calculations

posted at 3/26/2011 7:29 AM EDT
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Pat -- numbers confuse me, lol. 

Here's another number/dollar funny ....... a month or so ago I was in line at Walmart.  The young man ahead of me paid with cash and left in a hurry.  The clerk was standing there, holding a green bill and looking very confused. 
She looked at me and said. "Now what am I supposed to do with THIS.  It won't fit in the cash register?", and showed me a 2 dollar bill.  I said that if I were her I would sure keep it - buy it for myself.   She said, "But it won't fit anywhere".   
I pulled two $1.00 bills from my wallet and asked if I could buy it.   She said "Sure!!" and handed me the $2 bill.Tongue out

Re: Depending on machines for calculations

posted at 3/26/2011 8:20 AM EDT
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Machines are fine but one needs to know how to calculate in your head or at least on paper.

Re: Depending on machines for calculations

posted at 3/26/2011 8:46 AM EDT
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I learned to count back change years and years ago before the "machine" calculated it for me.  It should probably be a part of math class some where during the 13 years a child is in school!!  I think the same may go for telling time on a clock with hands! LOL

Re: Depending on machines for calculations

posted at 3/26/2011 9:05 AM EDT
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Hey  some of the young people don't even know what a 2 dollar bill is. Don't see many anymore same thing with a 50 cent piece.

Re: Depending on machines for calculations

posted at 3/26/2011 9:44 AM EDT
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When I was a cashier no matter what the register said I still counted back the change that was due the customer.We were taught to do this and never put the customers money in the drawer until the sale was final and they had their receipts and change in hand. There are a lot of con artists out there that just love the Dummies and love to take their money.I have had two cashiers in the recent past take my money and they entered in a larger amount than I gave them and they handed me incorrect change way too much,when I told them they became very angry,so I went to the office because I knew their drawer would be short and sure enough it was.I work as a cashier like I said and if we were short so many times in one year you could be terminated.I don't want anyone to lose their job.We as a society have become very dependant on machines to do our jobs,and it looks like the machines are now taking our jobs.We need to go back to the basics like true customer service done by a human not a machine,how irritating is it to call a place of business and a machine answers your call???? Push this button and this button,oh forget it !!!!!!!

Re: Depending on machines for calculations

posted at 3/26/2011 10:19 AM EDT
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YES  A wonderful job the teachers do. There is no real world training anymore. Kindergarten used to teach coins, change and COURTESY. And it has grown all the way to our politicians. I know a mechanical engineer at the Pentagon. He told me the brass working there can't change a lightbulb, not because they are lazy but because "they don't know how".

Re: Depending on machines for calculations

posted at 3/26/2011 10:52 AM EDT
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I like to use my calculator, but can still do the math in my head.  I've had similar experiences where the cashier couldn't figure out the change and have had to help them.  I know that there are some people that have a difficult time with math, but I would think that counting would be a skill that I cashier should have.

Re: Depending on machines for calculations

posted at 3/26/2011 12:24 PM EDT
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I think the same was to happen with telling of time.I remember when watch faces digitally showed the time, gone was the face on the dial.
I'm glad to see traditional watches have made a come back.
It's too bad that so many of the fast food places have pictures of the food that enter the prices. I guess the menu is so large that management doesn't expect their employees to remember such things.

Re: Depending on machines for calculations

posted at 3/26/2011 5:15 PM EDT
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Pat, I agree it is a lost art!  So many cash registers tell what the change should be that clerks are lost when they have to do it by themselves.  Elementary school teachers listen up!

Re: Depending on machines for calculations

posted at 3/26/2011 7:14 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Depending on machines for calculations:
Pat -- numbers confuse me, lol.  Here's another number/dollar funny ....... a month or so ago I was in line at Walmart.  The young man ahead of me paid with cash and left in a hurry.  The clerk was standing there, holding a green bill and looking very confused.  She looked at me and said. "Now what am I supposed to do with THIS.  It won't fit in the cash register?", and showed me a 2 dollar bill.  I said that if I were her I would sure keep it - buy it for myself.   She said, "But it won't fit anywhere".    I pulled two $1.00 bills from my wallet and asked if I could buy it.   She said "Sure!!" and handed me the $2 bill.
Posted by Nancy G


I don't supposed it occured to her to put it under the coin drawer?

Re: Depending on machines for calculations

posted at 3/26/2011 7:19 PM EDT
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Folks, welcome to the new world!  Gone are the days when you were required to do math in your head or think for yourself.  Apparently none of this is taught in schools anymore.  Now the kids have to buy a calculator(from the school usually) when they get to first grade.  My grandaughter has had to do this every year since she started school.  Unfortunately they all know how to "text" but most can't add two plus two and get the right answer.  Somewhere along the line our educational system had a brain hemorrage and math seems to be one of the casualties.  While I think geometry and higher math have their place,  the basic math skills that we need everyday have been sorely overlooked.

Getting off my soapbox now LOL.  Thanks for letting me vent.

Re: Depending on machines for calculations

posted at 3/26/2011 7:21 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Depending on machines for calculations:
When I was a cashier no matter what the register said I still counted back the change that was due the customer.We were taught to do this and never put the customers money in the drawer until the sale was final and they had their receipts and change in hand. There are a lot of con artists out there that just love the Dummies and love to take their money.I have had two cashiers in the recent past take my money and they entered in a larger amount than I gave them and they handed me incorrect change way too much,when I told them they became very angry,so I went to the office because I knew their drawer would be short and sure enough it was.I work as a cashier like I said and if we were short so many times in one year you could be terminated.I don't want anyone to lose their job.We as a society have become very dependant on machines to do our jobs,and it looks like the machines are now taking our jobs.We need to go back to the basics like true customer service done by a human not a machine,how irritating is it to call a place of business and a machine answers your call???? Push this button and this button,oh forget it !!!!!!!
Posted by gale g



I hate talking to recordings too!   They neve have the choice I want to pick.  So by the time I get to a live person I am cranky and annoyed.

Re: Depending on machines for calculations

posted at 3/26/2011 10:36 PM EDT
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Pat...

I think it's very sad and it really makes you wonder what is being taught in schools today.  But if you ask them to send a text message, that they can do hands down!! 

Re: Depending on machines for calculations

posted at 3/27/2011 12:21 AM EDT
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Our younger generation need not only math but, when was the last time you saw a class for typing? I type 120 wpm (or did before arthritis set in) and my grandkids use the computers and send text messages all the time but, are always amazed that I can type without looking at the keyboard! They ask how and I tell them typing class. Then they ask what is that?

Re: Depending on machines for calculations

posted at 3/27/2011 2:11 AM EDT
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I used to type over 100 wpm when I was in high school and for about 15 years after. I hadn't
typed in years until we got our computer but I don't type fast anymore. The grandkids all
text and never seem to have the time to talk to you. They are 16, 14, and 11. The 2 oldest
are also on facebook. I'm glad I had time with them when they were younger, but I don't think
they will have time for us now.  The 14 year old is in Florida and the other 2 live about 80 miles
from us. The 16 and 11 year old each got a 40 inch TV for Christmas and spent almost all
the time in their bedrooms. Everything they teach in school now is computerized.

Thank you for letting me vent. I will also get off my soapbox now.

Re: Depending on machines for calculations

posted at 3/27/2011 5:22 AM EDT
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My husband has a habit of giving change when he pays the bill so that he will get a quarter back and that really confuses them.  When we lived in Alabama, we went to this grocery store where we shopped often and my husband did this.  The clerk looked puzzled and the other clerk came over and said "just punch it in."  He so much as said don't try to figure it out.  Very amusing.!

Re: Depending on machines for calculations

posted at 3/27/2011 6:02 AM EDT
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It seems that our educational system is missing the boat. I also have difficulty sometimes with numbers, but I try to persevere and am amazed at the young people who work in stores who cannot count and really do not comprehend the monetary system without the use of calculators. If the register shows it they sometimes cannot comprehend the change that you add to the amount so that you don't end up with a pocket full of change. When they count the money to be given to you, if they count it at all, they just say what the register indicates. How do we stop the deterioration of our country?

Re: Depending on machines for calculations

posted at 3/27/2011 8:26 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Depending on machines for calculations:
Pat... I think it's very sad and it really makes you wonder what is being taught in schools today.  But if you ask them to send a text message, that they can do hands down!! 
Posted by Susan K


I won't text from my phone.  But I will text the husband using my computer at work.  I just have to remember to keep it short!  LOL

Re: Depending on machines for calculations

posted at 3/27/2011 8:31 PM EDT
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I think the SOL's are partly to blame.  The teachers have to spend so much time with those tests, there is no time for practical skills.

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