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CINQO de MAYO; ANY

posted at 4/29/2012 4:05 PM EDT
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GRANA here;
Saturday May5 is Cinqo de Mayo) .I have asked several hispanic acquaintences what the day is all about. I never eally got a deffinitive answer:
A few I was given:
It's like your4th ofJuly(Iyour Independence day OR "I don't know"
When we lived in SanDiego(several hispanic neighborhoods& business assssociates;People often had a BBQ; completew/ firecrackers.
I looked it up & it hadsomethingto do w/ aMexican General& hero
The one thing k I do know isthat we always eat Mexican food on that day
Depending upon the weather on that day, we mght have chili OR
a taco salad
OR tacos; quesdillas; enchiladas; burittos, chili rellenos
whatever I feel like making.Masny  are meatless & are still enjoyed  by all family members
Not all the hispanic people asked wereMexican; some ewhere  fromCentra l  America( El Salvador;Colombia; Nicaragua ua, Guatemala, etc so that might explain their lack of knowledge????????
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f you know more about the day ; it's history; etc; PLEASE SHARE w:/ me/us.....
If you have special plans( activities/ menus; please share that too.*************

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posted at 4/29/2012 4:35 PM EDT
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GRANA   here;
  The Mexican general I refrred to  previously  was Santa Ana;who led his troops against theAlamo; a hero to his own people but not likely to modern day Americans.The Alamo was a toughtime; manyAmericans lost their lives(DaveyCrocket; Daniel Boone ; died heros . Apparantly the one answer  I got was not correct...I seriously doubt hat CINQO  de MAYO had anything to do w/ the Alamo???

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Will be on vacation in Charleston!!

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Setting The Stage
The battle at Puebla in 1862 happened at a violent and chaotic time in Mexico's history. Mexico had finally gained www.mexonline.com/mexican-independence.htm" rel="nofollow">independence from Spain in 1821 after a difficult and bloody struggle, and a number of internal political takeovers and wars, including the Mexican-American War (1846-1848) and the Mexican Civil War of 1858, had ruined the national economy.

Archduke Ferdinand Maximilian
 Archduke Ferdinand Maximilian 
During this period of struggle Mexico had accumulated heavy debts to several nations, including Spain, England and France, who were demanding repayment. Similar debt to the U.S. was previously settled after the Mexican-American War. France was eager to expand its empire at that time, and used the debt issue to move forward with goals of establishing its own leadership in Mexico. Realizing France's intent of empire expansion, Spain and England withdrew their support. When Mexico finally stopped making any www.mexonline.com/benitojuarez.htm" rel="nofollow">loan payments, France took action on its own to install Napoleon III's relative, Archduke Maximilian of Austria, as ruler of Mexico.

Mexico Confronts The Invasion
CINCO DE MAYO FESTIVALS, PARTIES
 Map showing Veracruz, site of the French invasion 
France invaded at the gulf coast of Mexico along the state of Veracruz (see map) and began to march toward Mexico City, a distance today of less than 600 miles. Although American President Abraham Lincoln was sympathetic to Mexico's cause, and for which he is honored in Mexico, the U.S. was involved in its own Civil War at the time and was unable to provide any direct assistance.

Gen. Ignacio Zaragoza
 Gen. Zaragoza 
Marching on toward Mexico City, the French army encountered strong resistance near www.mexonline.com/cityguide-puebla.htm" rel="nofollow">Puebla at the Mexican forts of Loreto and Guadalupe. Lead by Mexican General Ignacio Zaragoza Seguin, a smaller, poorly armed militia estimated at 4,500 men were able to stop and defeat a well outfitted French army of 6,500 soldiers, which stopped the invasion of the country. The victory was a glorious moment for Mexican patriots, which at the time helped to develop a needed sense of national unity, and is the cause for the historical date's celebration.

Unfortunately, the victory was short lived. Upon hearing the bad news, Napoleon III had found an excuse to send more troops overseas to try and invade Mexico again, even against the wishes of the French populace. 30,000 more troops and a full year later, the French were eventually able to depose the Mexican army, take over Mexico City and install Maximilian as the ruler of Mexico.

Maximilian's bullet riddled shirt on display Maximilian's rule of Mexico was also short lived, from 1864 to 1867. With the American Civil War now over, the U.S. began to provide more political and military assistance to Mexico to expel the French, after which Maximilian was executed by the Mexicans - his bullet riddled shirt is kept at the museum at Chapultepec Castle in Mexico City. So despite the eventual French invasion of Mexico City, Cinco de Mayo honors the bravery and victory of General Zaragoza's smaller, outnumbered militia at the Battle of Puebla in 1862.

Today's Celebration
For the most part, the holiday of Cinco de Mayo is more of a regional holiday in Mexico, celebrated most vigorously in the state of Puebla. There is some limited recognition of the holiday throughout the country with different levels of enthusiasm, but it's nothing like that found in Puebla.

Traditional Mexican dancers Celebrating Cinco de Mayo has become increasingly popular along the U.S.-Mexico border and in parts of the U.S. that have a high population of people with a Mexican heritage. In these areas the holiday is a celebration of Mexican culture, of food, music, beverage and customs unique to Mexico.

Commercial interests in the United States and Mexico have also had a hand in promoting the holiday, with products and services focused on Mexican food, beverages and festivities, with music playing a more visible role as well. Several cities throughout the U.S. hold parades and concerts during the week following up to May 5th, so that Cinco de Mayo has become a bigger holiday north of the border than it is to the south, and being adopted into the holiday calendar of more and more people every year.

[Sources: Encyclopedia Encarta, Encyclopedia Britanica, Prescott's Mexico:1900, HistoryChannel.com, other sources. minor edits April 25, 2007]

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posted at 4/30/2012 8:24 AM EDT
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Angela, thank you for this good explanation of the holiday.  I, too, never really understood what the celebration was based upon.

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It is ok but we don't do anything

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posted at 5/1/2012 12:23 AM EDT
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Here in Southern California, this is a big day with lots of celebrations. And many restaurants have specials on Mexican dishes!!!

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posted at 5/6/2012 9:02 PM EDT
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 GRANA  here;
hi ANGELA F;thanks for THE EDUCATION, I  tried a few of my usuallly helpful resources &  found nothing of help  re: CINQO  di MAYO; One source aid it had to do w/ getting the French out of Mexico, another hinted that a common  enemy to theUSA  was involved...;another mentionedthetimeframe of 1860's )our ownCIVIL WAR); but BUT  now @ least I know why  so many Mexicans in  the San Diego area  did not themselves know the hstory of the celebration.They must have come from rom an area other than puebla ( where it is more commonly observed.It seems that even in Mexico, it s observed in a huge variety of ways; so any way we decide is goingto be OK : food? songs? dancing?; games?Cool "LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL" ; as they say in New Orleans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Setting The Stage The battle at Puebla in 1862 happened at a violent and chaotic time in Mexico's history. Mexico had finally gained www.mexonline.com/mexican-independence.htm " rel="nofollow" /> independence from Spain in 1821 after a difficult and bloody struggle, and a number of internal political takeovers and wars, including the Mexican-American War (1846-1848) and the Mexican Civil War of 1858, had ruined the national economy.   Archduke Ferdinand Maximilian   During this period of struggle Mexico had accumulated heavy debts to several nations, including Spain, England and France, who were demanding repayment. Similar debt to the U.S. was previously settled after the Mexican-American War. France was eager to expand its empire at that time, and used the debt issue to move forward with goals of establishing its own leadership in Mexico. Realizing France's intent of empire expansion, Spain and England withdrew their support. When Mexico finally stopped making any www.mexonline.com/benitojuarez.htm " rel="nofollow"> loan payments , France took action on its own to install Napoleon III's relative, Archduke Maximilian of Austria, as ruler of Mexico. Mexico Confronts The Invasion   Map showing Veracruz, site of the French invasion   France invaded at the gulf coast of Mexico along the state of Veracruz (see map) and began to march toward Mexico City, a distance today of less than 600 miles. Although American President Abraham Lincoln was sympathetic to Mexico's cause, and for which he is honored in Mexico, the U.S. was involved in its own Civil War at the time and was unable to provide any direct assistance.   Gen. Zaragoza   Marching on toward Mexico City, the French army encountered strong resistance near www.mexonline.com/cityguide-puebla.htm " rel="nofollow"> Puebla at the Mexican forts of Loreto and Guadalupe. Lead by Mexican General Ignacio Zaragoza Seguin, a smaller, poorly armed militia estimated at 4,500 men were able to stop and defeat a well outfitted French army of 6,500 soldiers, which stopped the invasion of the country. The victory was a glorious moment for Mexican patriots, which at the time helped to develop a needed sense of national unity, and is the cause for the historical date's celebration. Unfortunately, the victory was short lived. Upon hearing the bad news, Napoleon III had found an excuse to send more troops overseas to try and invade Mexico again, even against the wishes of the French populace. 30,000 more troops and a full year later, the French were eventually able to depose the Mexican army, take over Mexico City and install Maximilian as the ruler of Mexico. Maximilian's rule of Mexico was also short lived, from 1864 to 1867. With the American Civil War now over, the U.S. began to provide more political and military assistance to Mexico to expel the French, after which Maximilian was executed by the Mexicans - his bullet riddled shirt is kept at the museum at Chapultepec Castle in Mexico City. So despite the eventual French invasion of Mexico City, Cinco de Mayo honors the bravery and victory of General Zaragoza's smaller, outnumbered militia at the Battle of Puebla in 1862. Today's Celebration For the most part, the holiday of Cinco de Mayo is more of a regional holiday in Mexico, celebrated most vigorously in the state of Puebla. There is some limited recognition of the holiday throughout the country with different levels of enthusiasm, but it's nothing like that found in Puebla. Celebrating Cinco de Mayo has become increasingly popular along the U.S.-Mexico border and in parts of the U.S. that have a high population of people with a Mexican heritage. In these areas the holiday is a celebration of Mexican culture, of food, music, beverage and customs unique to Mexico. Commercial interests in the United States and Mexico have also had a hand in promoting the holiday, with products and services focused on Mexican food, beverages and festivities, with music playing a more visible role as well. Several cities throughout the U.S. hold parades and concerts during the week following up to May 5th, so that Cinco de Mayo has become a bigger holiday north of the border than it is to the south, and being adopted into the holiday calendar of more and more people every year. [Sources: Encyclopedia Encarta, Encyclopedia Britanica, Prescott's Mexico:1900, HistoryChannel.com, other sources. minor edits April 25, 2007]
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posted at 5/6/2012 10:34 PM EDT
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Although I know of the origin of this "holiday" from a history class (a long time ago lol), seems to me that most of the people around here think of it as just another excuse to overindulge.  There are a lot of hispanic people living in this area and I doubt that most of them have a clue as to the origin of the date.  Stores and restaurants make a big deal of it to sell more stuff.  I personally try to stay off the roads on this day due to the "overindulgence" of the people who do decide to celebrate.  There are enough drunks on the road on any given day as it is.  Patiently waiting for the day when a car won't start for anybody who's been drinking lol.

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